Archylus Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 Bueno no hay mucho que decir kingstone Value Ram KVR800D2N5K2.... Esta es una serie que viene en un kit de 2 de ram sin embargo yo ya estoy usando 1. Mi pc tiene 3 gb y solo aguanta 3 ( Windows de 32 bits ) tons a esta ya no le encuentro utilidad de ponerla. 1 GB. DDR2-800 (PC2-6400) 12 rojillos. tuanis
Abunai Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 Hace tiempillo que no paso por aca, me habia quedado sin pc decente para poder jugar, pero ya esta en camino, asi que voy poniendome al día. mae windows XP 32 bits te aguanta 4GB, solo te va reportar 3 en el OS porque by defauld trae habilitado el PAE (Physical Address Extension), es cuestion de desabilitarlo y listo, el OS te va reconocer los 4 GB. Ahora si el MoBo te soporta solo 3 ya limitaciones fisicas son otra cosa.
Archylus Posted July 31, 2008 Author Report Posted July 31, 2008 Men esa opcion no es muy confiable, puede causar mas errores de lo normal segun he leido en algunos foros...no se si me equivoco pero no me dan ganas de probar xD
Lorddarknes Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 Mae use vista 64 y problema resuelto ahi me avisa y yo le consigo "un demo backup" del programa
Abunai Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 Men esa opcion no es muy confiable, puede causar mas errores de lo normal segun he leido en algunos foros...no se si me equivoco pero no me dan ganas de probar xD yo lo e hecho amenudo en Servers y cero problemas, sin embargo como dicen por ahi tambien puedes instalar cualquier os 64bits, si quieres te puedo ayudar a desabilitar el pae, pero lo que le quede mas facil xD
hB-ZeRaTuL Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 cual es la diferencia entre bus de 800 y bus de 667?
kLorD Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) cual es la diferencia entre bus de 800 y bus de 667? 133 , jk un poco mas de velocidad, solo eso, y se refiere a ella como velocidad de memoria, no bus porque se confundiría con el bus del sistema Edited July 31, 2008 by DarKross
Holy_COW Posted July 31, 2008 Report Posted July 31, 2008 Mae el PAE solo bretea en las versiones Server (windows 2003) a XP no le bretea... Y si quieren 64bits usen vista64, el XP64 es demasiado dolor a nivel de drivers y varias pulguillas (ademas de q con 4GB no hay excusa pa no correr vista lol)
Abunai Posted August 1, 2008 Report Posted August 1, 2008 (edited) Mae el PAE solo bretea en las versiones Server (windows 2003) a XP no le bretea...Y si quieren 64bits usen vista64, el XP64 es demasiado dolor a nivel de drivers y varias pulguillas (ademas de q con 4GB no hay excusa pa no correr vista lol) Physical Address Extension The Physical Address Extension (PAE) allows 32-bit Windows systems to use more than 4 GB of physical memory. PAE also enables several advanced system and processor features so it can also be used on computers that have less than 4 GB of memory. Features enabled by PAE include hardware-enabled Data Execution Prevention (DEP), non-uniform memory access (NUMA), and the ability to add memory to a system while it is running (hot-add memory). PAE is supported only on 32-bit versions of Windows; 64-bit versions of Windows do not support PAE. The following 32-bit Windows releases support PAE: Windows Server 2008 Windows Vista Windows Server 2003 Windows XP Windows 2000 Datacenter Server Windows 2000 Advanced Server On most computers, PAE is disabled by default. (PAE is enabled by default only if DEP is enabled on a computer that supports hardware-enabled DEP, or if the computer is configured for hot-add memory devices in memory ranges beyond 4 GB.) PAE must be explicitly enabled for Windows to run in NUMA mode on a NUMA-capable computer. To enable PAE, use the BCDEdit /set command to set the pae boot entry option. Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP/2000: To enable PAE, use the /PAE switch in the Boot.ini file. To disable PAE, use the /NOPAE switch. With PAE enabled, the operating system moves from two-level linear address translation to three-level address translation. The extra layer of translation provides access to physical memory beyond 4 GB. Instead of a linear address being split into three separate fields for indexing into memory tables, it is split into four separate fields: a 2-bit field, two 9-bit fields, and a 12-bit field that corresponds to the page size implemented by Intel Architecture (4 KB). PAE, 4-gigabyte tuning (4GT), and Address Windowing Extensions (AWE) serve different purposes and can be used independently of each other: PAE allows the operating system to access and use more than 4 GB of physical memory. 4GT extends the 32-bit user virtual address space from 2 GB to up to 3 GB. AWE is a set of APIs that allows a process to allocate nonpaged physical memory and then dynamically map portions of this memory into the virtual address space of the process. When neither 4GT nor AWE are being used, the amount of physical memory that a single 32-bit process can use is limited by the size of its address space (2 GB). In this case, a PAE-enabled system can still make use of more than 4 GB of RAM to run multiple processes at the same time or to cache file data in memory. 4GT can be used with or without PAE. However, some versions of Windows limit the maximum amount of physical memory that can be supported when 4GT is used. On such systems, booting with 4GT enabled causes the operating system to ignore any memory in excess of the limit. For details, see Memory Limits for Windows Releases. AWE does not require PAE or 4GT but is often used together with PAE to allocate more than 4 GB of physical memory from a single 32-bit process. Source: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366796.aspx en otras palabras es cuestion de agregar una linea al “boot.ini” es bastante sencillo Pero es verdad con 4GB podrias correr Vista tranquilamente, la unica opcion seria que tu micro no soporte 64bits. Edited August 1, 2008 by Abunai
Holy_COW Posted August 1, 2008 Report Posted August 1, 2008 (edited) pues hasta ahora nunca he visto a alguien q le bretee el PAE fuera de 2003 server... a menos q con el sp3 lo arreglaran... Prubelo y nos confirma (recuerde medir la ram con un programa aparte porque ahora windows XP siempre reporta los 4GB aunque NO los pueda usar de verdad - tontera solicitada por los OEMs para consumidores q no digan q los estafaron) p.d. http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid&ID=888137 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms791485.aspx "When 4 GB of memory is installed and PAE is enabled, the amount of available memory could be less than what you would expect" Edited August 1, 2008 by Holy_COW
«Dart» Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 (edited) 133 , jkun poco mas de velocidad, solo eso, y se refiere a ella como velocidad de memoria, no bus porque se confundiría con el bus del sistema las mías son de 667, si le pongo de 800 simplemente trabajaría a la velocidad de las 667 sin causar ningún problema verdad? Edited August 2, 2008 by «Dart»
betoelbicho Posted August 2, 2008 Report Posted August 2, 2008 mae si le pone 800 notaría como un 0% de improve en su vida normal usando la computadora... la única razón seria para comprarlo sería si quiere hacer un overclock..
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